Dr. Elisa Hallerman, PhD, JD is an attorney, former talent agent, drug and alcohol counselor, author of Soulbriety and founder of the Recovery Management Agency. She joins the show to discuss her journey from working in Hollywood to getting sober, how to differentiate problem drinking or drug use from true addiction, how to stop before hitting rock bottom, the “California sober” movement and grey area between total abstinence and moderate use, why psychedelic use could be detrimental for certain people , where trauma gets stored in the body and so much more.